proposal about the timecontrole at WBEC Ridderkerk.........

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proposal about the timecontrole at WBEC Ridderkerk.........

Post  Leo Dijksman on Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:43 pm



To all authors which have their engine playing at WBEC-Ridderkerk,

Some people (including myself) find the current setup of WBEC-Ridderkerk
too compicated and to slow (to much time between 2 editions), therefore
I suggest for next editions to play the Premier in 40/40 and all other
divisions in 40/20 (40 moves in 20 minutes).

I hope any author who is interrested gives his opinion about the proposal
below, specially about the change in timecontrole from 40/40 to 40/20!
Other proposals are welcome too!

Proposal for Edition 17 (and next):

Premier: 24 engines - 40/40 - 4RR - 1104 games = 105 days played at a Q9550 (2 cpus/cores a engine allowed)
1st Div: 24 engines - 40/20 - 4RR - 1104 games = 55 days played at a Q9550 (2 cpus/cores a engine allowed)

2nd Div: 24 engines - 40/20 - 4RR - 1104 games = 55 days played at a Phenom 540
3rd Div: 24 engines - 40/20 - 4RR - 1104 games = 55 days played at a Phenom 540
4th Div: 32 engines - 40/20 - 2RR - 992 games = 48 days played at a Phenom 540
5th Div: 84 - 90 engines:
3 qualify groups with 28/32 engines 40/20 - 2RR - 992 games = 3 x 48 days played at a Opteron 244
Final: 16 engines - 40/20 - 2RR - 240 games = 12 days played at a Opteron 244
Mr.Irr: 12 engines - 40/20 - 2RR - 132 games = 6 days played at a Opteron 244
(Total 5th division = 162 days)

Promo A played at 40/40, all other Promo's at 40/20.
New engine qualify at 40/20.

Total time for a complete edition will be about 7 months this way!?

Thanks to all for your time!

Leo Dijksman
Reactions here or by email please: LeoATwbec-ridderkerk.nl (replace AT by @ )


Most reactions sofar looks positive, one proposal for Fischer time controls sofar:

"it seems ok to me, I agree time between editions is too large, always more chess is more fun Wink"

"Good idea! Most engines in the lower leagues reach the same depth with 40/20 as 40/40 anyway...Smile"

"In my opinion x moves in y minutes time control is not good. I'm in favor of Fischer time controls. Here's my suggestion: for the Premier division maybe you could have 30' + 5" then for the other divisions you could have 15'+5" "

"To me is ok; changing from 40/40 to 40/20 it shouldn't be a problem for anyone. Moreover, with the speed of the current PC, today a match to 40/20 is like a match to 40/60 from two years ago. So, go on with your idea"

"of course, like most other programmers, I prefer long time controls the longer, the better. So something like 40/120 would look perfectly to me Wink
Anyway, one have to be realistic and as you already pointed out, the time between editions gets longer and longer. And in my opinion it is definitely more important to have such a nice big field then you have (almost all engines tested) then just some engines with very long time control. Also its a lot of fun to see new entrants marching from version to version through the instances / editions.
Therefore I think your new time scheme is a good idea, maybe you can even find some more days to reduce the total time to 6 month so there would be the possibility to have 2 champions each year."

"For me 40/20 is ok. Because my engine will play a little better for faster time controls ..."

"40/20 sounds fine to me" (togheter with a good proposal, in dutch and I am not going to translate it here :-))

"I suggest 40/40 for Premier, 40/30 for 1stDiv, 40/15 for 5thDiv, 40/20 for 2ndDiv,3rdDiv,4thDiv."

"Proposal looks ok to me"

Thanks to all who answered sofar!!
Leo
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Re: proposal about the timecontrole at WBEC Ridderkerk.........

Post  Jesper Nielsen on Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:44 pm

40/20 is fine by me.

I am just grateful that someone is willing to invest a lot of time and energi into hosting a tournament.

Slow games are good, but it has to be fun! Especially for the one actually running the tournament.

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Jesper

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